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And so, the drop-in paradox: It’s always wrong, but sometimes it’s necessary. In the Hobbesian state of nature, the only resources you get are the ones you wrest from your fellow man. Photo: Patrick “Tupat” Eichstaedt

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The people who form the wider surf media tend to share similar social circles.  No surprise there. I try to keep my personal life as far from the surf world as possible because, a) it’s easier to criticize people in print if they haven’t bought me a drink in the last six months, and b) I just don’t trust Californians very much.  It’s something about the way they pronounce their “ings” (Hey bro, let’s go surfeen) and the way that many are compulsively chummy with everyone, even people they hate.

Despite my prejudices, I took a surf trip with Zach Weisberg based on the assumption that, because he was Jewish, at least he would be good conversation.  We flew from Sydney to Noosa then drove deep into the wilds of Australia, by which I mean the Gold Coast, in order to surf Queensland’s famous point breaks.  I also spent a morning shoveling manure at Tom Wegener’s house in Noosa, but that’s a completely different story.  We ate meat pies, dodged gangs of roving, drunken youths in Coolangatta, paddled against the rip at the Super Bank, and went to that club in Byron where they encourage you to dance on the tables.  You know the one.  We ended up staying with Jed Smith in a house in the Hills of Northern New South Wales.  It wasn’t Smith’s house.  In fact, it was never entirely clear whose house it was, and if the owners knew that Smith was staying there and making vegetable lasagna from the leftover ingredients in the fridge.  Damn good lasagna though.  We woke up every morning before the sun rose and drove out to Broken Head.  For three straight days it pumped perfect right hand barrels, sans rip, and we surfed until it the sun set, until it felt like a game of chicken between catching a final wave, and getting eaten by a shark, until we had to paddle in because it was too dark to see.

Somewhere amid the wave-drenched bacchanal, we sat on the little wooden viewing stand watching waves reel off the eponymous headland.  An older guy took off at the top of the point when, directly down the line from him, a middle-aged man paddled in, and burned the hell out of him.  The snake went on to pull into the barrel on his backside, and get tubed across the entire length of the first section.  It was an impressive display of wave-riding prowess and unforgivable son-of-a-bitchery.  When we paddled out, the snake was still in the lineup and still at it.  Every wave was the same: despite not being in pole position, he would take off in front of someone, stuff the poor guy, then get a three or four second barrel.  He had that way of making minute adjustments with his butt and arm planted in the wave face that make the board almost look superfluous and sets good tube riders apart from the rest of us.  It was wonderful to watch such a good surfer, but after he dropped-in on a third consecutive person, the only question left was:  How do you reach a point in your life where you are such a piece of shit that you think everyone in the lineup owes you a wave?  To put it another way, how do you rationalize dropping-in on people?

When I got home, I started emailing the pro surfers in my address book who don’t mind responding to my left field questions.  I asked them all the same thing: “When, if ever, is it okay to drop-in on someone?”

“You could write a book on elements of the drop-in,” said Derek Hynd, via Facebook. “When is it ok? Maybe if the surfer already riding is in no way going to make the section – that’s not when the guy is at full trim in a barrel by the way.”  But, of course, things get far more complicated.  “It gets a bit grey at a good wave spot when people paddle past other people either in ignorance of the rights of way or if it’s a case of the better section being deeper. One guy I know well at a classic wave would sit so far down the line that 99% of the crowd would naturally paddle past him on the paddle back out. It was his claim that he shouldn’t need to paddle deep to lay claim if the best section was exactly where he was sitting. He had a claim to eventually drop in on people because of waiting his turn.”

“Dropping-in is never really okay, because you look like a fool,” said Adrian Bucchan. “But I will take exception to the rule if I have been waiting my turn and someone has been greedy or paddled past me. Or if someone has blatantly dropped in on me twice, everyone gets a chance.   Unfortunately, it only takes a few guys not taking turns in even an un-crowded lineup for the unspoken rules to rapidly disintegrate…kind of like Lord of the Flies. Survival of the fittest!”

In William Golding’s classic, a class of English schoolboys marooned on an island form a society with shining ideals that eventually degenerates into a Hobbesian nightmare where the strong prey on the weak.  This should sound familiar to anyone who regularly surfs in crowded lineups.

In busy lineups, modern surfers have created not a democracy but a meritocracy: a mini-society in which those with more ability rule over those with less ability.  I’ve interviewed Buchan a couple of times, and surfed with him a few more.  I trust him as much as I would ever trust a pro athlete (more than a Boston priest, but less than a New York cop) to not take advantage of his exceptional ability. But I can’t think of too many more WT surfers who I feel the same way about.

Not Jordy Smith, anyway. I contacted Smith because he sits in the very highest echelons of our meritocracy, and he also doesn’t seem to worry about sounding diplomatic when quoted in the media.  He didn’t disappoint.

“Who in their right mind lets the wave of the day pass you by when having a kook on your inside fluttering around and whistling to the tune of the Pied Piper?” Smith said.

He was half-joking because I told him not to take the question too seriously, but he was half-right as well.  If I know I can surf a wave better than the guy inside of me, sometimes I go.  Why “waste” the wave on someone who is going to wiggle his butt, flail his arms, do half a cut back then claim it?  But if you believe that, which I do, you have to accept it when it happens to you.  At this year’s Quik Pro Gold Coast, Mick Fanning dropped in on me during a session at Duranbah.  It wasn’t, strictly speaking “fair,” but strictly speaking, even I knew I was taking off a little too deep for my humble abilities.

I was, of course, entitled to a retributive drop-in.  “I think the only time it’s okay to drop-in is if someone blatantly does it to you first,” said free surfer, Dion Agius, via email.  “If it is was obviously on purpose, feel free to return the favour.”

Four-time World Champ Stephanie Gilmore agreed.  ‘“Etiquette is standard everywhere, and people shouldn’t just willy nilly drop-in,” she said.  “But there are definitely certain places in the world where surfers (of both genders) get greedy. It’s like they are trying to make a statement by getting more waves. You should never be an asshole, but some times a little drop-in every now and then helps them to know that you can actually surf and to stop paddling around you to prove they can take off deeper. Just like most things in life, there is a standard etiquette that karma helps to regulate, but there will always be one or two in every group.”

And so, the drop-in paradox: It’s always wrong, but sometimes it’s necessary. In the Hobbesian state of nature, the only resources you get are the ones you wrest from your fellow man.  In this case, the drop-in is a weapon in your arsenal.  If a bully takes your ball on the playground, you run to the teacher – well, I used to, anyway – but if there’s no teacher, no higher arbiter of fairness, the onus is on you to get your ball back. Surfing is one of the few sports where the players are their own arbiters.  Another is junior tennis, in which players are expected to make their own line calls.  If you ever want to see how nasty children can be to each other, watch a junior tennis tournament.  If you want to see how nasty grown men and women can be to each other, go watch a crowded day at your local point break.  There is always a way to rationalize taking someone else’s wave – “he owed me one, he’s not from around here, these crowds are invading my spot, he speaks with a different language, she’s a girl, etc…” but they all rest on the notion that you deserve a wave.  False.  Nature and your fellow man don’t owe you anything, bub.

In 431 BC, the Greek scholar and historian, Thucydides, wrote a political treatise called the Melian Dialogue that modern scholars still use to illustrate the textbook definition of how people function in a state of anarchy.  It all boils down to this quote: “The strong will do what they can and the weak will suffer what they must.”  That’s how developed surfing societies function.  However, when I contacted Tom Carroll, he related a contradictory experience he enjoyed some years back in French Polynesia.

“One alarming exception I noticed (to the “no dropping in rule) was during my first trip to Moorea, I think in July ’86. The local surfers surfed all together on the wave. This seemed to increase their level of enjoyment. While for me — a young, feisty freckled faced Australian used to getting lots of waves from the inside position at his home break, this was a big surprise!  No aggression, just loads of fun, riding together on perfect 6’+ left pass, Ha’apiti. At first I was offended by the apparent dropping in. But then they would let me go on a big one. They didn’t speak English, only French and their eastern Polynesian dialect. Simply enjoying riding without the notion of ownership, that has lasted with me forever!”

The sharing of waves is common in many embryonic surfing societies but there always comes a point where the “one man, one wave” mentality takes over, and once you start down that road, well, child, “there aint no going back.”

“…I’m vicious.” Mickey Dora told Surfer in the 60’s. “We’re all pushing and shoving, jockeying for position, and if I get the wave first — if I’m in the best position — then I feel I deserve it.”

Dora was no dark profit, just a guy saying what everyone else was thinking and the cajones to back it up in the clutch.  Also not someone you would really trust to decide who does and does not deserve waves.  And that’s the big dilemma, the Prisoners’ Dilemma actually: if we all worked together, we would get a better outcome, or at least one that benefited more people, but as it is that I don’t trust you, you don’t trust me, and no one in his right mind trusts the guys catching the most waves, like Dora.  And they don’t want to cooperate anyway.  The strong do what they can and the weak accept what they must.

Flash back to Broken Head: the serial burner took a final wave in, deep in the tube almost the entire time.  Five waves, five drop-ins, five great rides.  He was awe-inspiring and disgusting, a king among the lepers in this strange Hobbesian anarchy we call surfing, where as ol’ Tom used to say, life is “solitary, poor, nasty, brutish, and short.”

  • ctwalrus

    it’s Never right and it’s Never necessary.   I’ve surf all my life(so far) and travelled all over the planet, and I just don’t see the need to drop in on someone.  In fact, if the only way to get a wave is to drop in, i go elsewhere.   Even kooks deserve a shot at making that wave that You think he’s going to blow.     Once had the reining world amateur champion drop in on me at J-bay—-spoke quietly to him later and said,  ” I would have liked to see if i could have made it out of that section that you dropped in on”<—he had the kindness to at least look embarrassed ……but he stopped dropping in on folks for the rest of the day……

  • prawn

    tom carroll should only be included as an example of  who not to ask about drop-in etiquette..
    most shameless, arrogant drop-in c#$t ever !!

    • Nick Carroll

      ha ha prawn I was gonna say…Tom is an expert “sharer”. Though he is getting better with age

      dropping in is usually just a sign that you weren’t in the spot to start with

      it can be heaps of fun surfing a wave with a mate in a state of mutual agreement.

      And it is possible to overreact to a drop-in. I mean it’s not a moral issue for god’s sake, but if it WERE, which would come first in the sloppy morality stakes?

      The assumption of ownership over something you had no hand whatsoever in creating?

      Or the knowing act of interference with another person’s pleasure?

      • Seabass120

        Except now Tom has a paddle.

  • Wano

    ‘If I know I can surf a wave better than the guy inside of me, sometimes
    I go.  Why “waste” the wave on someone who is going to wiggle his butt,
    flail his arms, do half a cut back then claim it?’

    Who am I to determine which wave another person is deserving of? Who am I to ruin another surfer’s enjoyment of surfing? I would rather watch somebody flail and kook it with a smile than be the asshole who ruined his session because of one wave.

    • Al Baydough


    • Lukerips

      The thing about surfing is that even the most useless kook think that they rip because most men don’t analyse themselves only others. So if you can’t do the most basic of moves such as floaters or busting fins then you should learn your trade at the open beaches and leave TOS alone until you have.

      • Al Baydough

        No doubt that many people don’t honestly assess their abilities for lineups that require more than simply going straight. It makes me insane when I’m surfing a spot that is purely for tube riding with guys who dodge every single barrel. I generally don’t hesitate to let them know they’re at the wrong spot and only asking for trouble. I had to work my way into those lineups by pulling in and being willing to take the beating if I didn’t make it. If you’re not willing to do the same don’t bitch when you get burned.

    • Ski

      Keep in mind that surfing isn’t about who is best or getting the most waves. Its about people enjoying the water around us and having a good time. Just because someone cant surf as well as you doesnt mean they should be allowed or cant enjoy the wave just as much.

  • Stu

    Good article, but the more important question is:  was Zach good conversation?  I can only imagine the crazy gefilte fish stories he must have!

    • c k

      It is becoming necessary because there are so many new ‘surfers’ that don’t understand the ethics and unwritten rules of surfing, the way you do if you grow up surfing.
      Broken Point – It’s where you live, it probably breaks that good like 5-10 times a year, and there are kooks with egos that you’ve never seen before on the inside hooting and calling you off and going over the falls and wasting prefect barrels running down the point. There are guys out there who don’t even know who Danny Wills is paddling for his waves.Write the same article about Pipe and you’d get laughed at. There is a lot more to the ethics of whose wave it is than who’s on the inside. I see young american guys come to Hawaii and paddle straight on the inside of the local guys who are there every single day and have been since they started surfing, and the seppo guy hoots and he will get burnt, and so he should.If your ego is bigger than your ability , and you don’t understand respect, then you will have problems.It’s all about fun and there are plenty of waves for everyone, you just need to know where you sit in the lineup hirachy. I’ll back someone up with a wobbly arse and flappy arms up at Snapper, but I won’t even consider paddling for Mick or Parko or Rabbit or Steph’s wave.Did anyone else get barreled the entire point at Broken? Would the ‘c#$%’ have got that wave without ‘dropping in’, or would it have been wasted by everyone pushing each other too deep?

  • Rushy

    Best morning I had was at a point break, just watching the mixed crew of old and young guys on both long and short boards, plus a few young ladies, a young grom on a bodybaord, and a SUP. In total, about 20 in the line up. Most waves had just one on it, but a few had 2-3 all laughing and sharing the stoke, not unlike Tom Carroll’s experience, I guess. If there’s any hassles in the line up, I just move on. There’s plenty of waves – always have been, always will be.

  • Jah

    If he drank the last beer in my fridge the night before…he’s getting dropped-in on. That, or he asked to borrow “just a bit” of my wax in the parking lot, and then used half the bar.

    But my favorite is the guy who paddles around you at the last second to get the inside position on the wave, all the while smiling a shit-eating grin and looking you straight in the eye…

  • Johnlewis4

    great article, need to shorten it up though lost interest half way down

    • ola_dunk_nordmann

      Ahhhh, the ADHD generation…

  • Al Baydough

    Amen, Take II.

  • Seascape

    Never say never……..One of the happiest moments of my life ws watching my young son snake me and share go-behinds on a lovely wall!  Now when the right wave is there I will snake him and we will laugh

  • bert

    “how people function in a state of anarchy.”

    I know the common meaning of the word “anarchy”, but I keep on thinking that it shouldn’t be used, especially in such a demonstration…
    Anarchy deserves better. As Elysée Reclus said, “anarchy is order without power.”
    I’d have prefer that you use the term “chaos” to illustriate your demonstration.

  • Guy

    This is the problem with crowds.  I cant surf in them. When I get snaked, I get scarry.  I chased a guy out of the water once.  If I caught him, I might have killed him. This is too far, it was just a wave.  If some guy snakes me because he is better than me, that does not stop me from wanting to kill him. And with the adrenaline, I might lose my cool and do it.

    • Al Baydough


    • Lukerips

      Don’t eva go to the GC, you’ll b locked up after your first wave.

  • backbeaches have fewer surfers

    dark profit? How about prophet ?
    really , the journalism , the writing , it hurts !

    • Sup with that punctuation spacing bro?

  • trippergreenfeet

    Back in the early 1990’s I moved to Burleigh for the cyclone season, coming straight out of the cold hard waters of South Australia’s far west coast where drop ins and snaking were swiftly dealt with. Not saying all were angels of sweetness however if you were a traveling surfer showing respect a set wave would come your way. If said blowin played dirty from the get go, not only would you get a touch up, well you’d better leave town by noon.

    The Goldie on the other hand was just a f*#kn nightmare for me for my first few surfs, getting burnt and snaked left, right and centre. Then I got some great advice from an old friend I visited down Brooms Head way. He said “If you want to get waves, don’t worry about the problem surfer, BE the problem surfer and let everyone else worry about you”. And this was from a bloke who grew up surfing the north coast during the 50’s and spent 20 years living at Cactus through the 70’s & 80’s.

    That was the best advice I could have asked for at that time, every surf after that I got heaps of waves, didn’t stop me feeling like a right prick though, certainly was not good for the soul.

    So I guess the point I’m trying to make is when in Rome….but when does Rome become a free for all shit fight and when is that shit fight justified?

  • Tyler Dirden

    When in Rome…but that gets ugly…does not feel good inside

  • ola_dunk_nordmann

    One the other hand, when is it OK to paddle past someone? If someone is sitting well on the inside of the peak because the perceive that section as best, should I sit there and wait for them not catching waves since it’s their turn all while the outside section is breaking?

  • DJ WYZE 1

    My favorite is when someone burns you and then apologizes, “sorry I didn’t see you.” Then proceeds to do it again, and again. Only then do I say something. Personally, if someone drops on me when I’m too far back to get around the next section it’s all good and that’s how it should be. I hate when people yell or whistle when you’re getting ready to drop even though you and they both know they’re not getting around that next section…

  • Ben Margetts

    I think the meritocracy point is more interesting. The best surfers feel they are entitled to get the most and best waves. And typically all the other surfers stand aside and let them, they don’t need to drop-in. I let them do it, like when MF comes out and snaps up 40% of all the waves on offer. And i take advantage of it, too. But, in its root i think it’s a shitty practice and part of what makes surfing in groups so alienating for new people. As a skater once said “surfers are dicks”. Still, the tragedy of the lineup is that i’m not willing to change unless everyone else does too.

  • Ryan Cobb

    Broken head = different set of rules. Same as other protected spots in the world. I did like the Cheeky Monkey call out though, always a good time.

  • Diego

    Great article and nice use of sociological theories.
    In this day and age, it’s hard to see such an effort to shed some light over everyday surfing issues.
    Way to go The Inertia. Congrats Endo.

  • effisk

    “waste”? That may be the kook’s best wave ever, he will probably enjoy the wave as much as anyone else, he might actually remember that wave for a lifetime, treasure the memory. It won’t be “just another wave” for him.

  • Jorge

    One notable exception, if some as***le is dropping into somenone and you are down the line of both, it seems fair to drop on both once he ruined the first guy’s wave any way.

  • DP

    gotta admit, im really surprised to not see any comments about hawaiians, brazilians, etc… is surfing becoming less racist? or are tourists getting less agro at other people’s home breaks?

  • Alex Lewis

    People surfing act like people in cars… trapped in their own bubble, somehow in belief that their own happiness is more important than anyone else’s.
    It’s strange how you don’t really get this mentality at a skate park, but I assume it’s because the skate park doesn’t change. I guess if that handrail only popped up once every 20minutes you would probably have people smacking each other for it to. Humans are fucked.

  • Lucy Wood

    if you drop in on me… i will drop in on you!

  • Michael Nunn

    Miki Dora, the dark prophet, rarely used his name a make a profit.

    • Andy Herridge

      nailed it

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